chairman, what do you think about a talk radio debate where maybe i get together with my buddy sean hadn't hannity and we interview some of the candidates. because the base i think would like that. >> listen, i don't think -- i actually think that's a very good idea. >> now, here is the irony. priebus led a massive gop autopsy to figure out why they got crushed in the last election. the results, the party needs to, quote, learn to appeal to more people. this is how you do it, by shutting out news outlets and retreating to your own fox news echo chamber? if he gets his way, it isn't new voices that the party will be hearing and reaching just their own. michael steele was chairman of the rnc before priebus. joan walsh is editor of salon, and both are msnbc political analysts. michael, if this were still the steele administration, would you be pursuing this path? >> yes, some severe thunderstorm of it, to be honest with you. >> why? >> let me break it down for you. i wouldn't be pursuing it now, because there is no body of evidence to prove your point. and so there is nothing to really beyond the bas